Please don't craft it. Unique support deck.

By: Entusk
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Posted: 2 months ago
Updated: 2 months ago
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Crafting Cost: 42200crystal
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DO NOT CRAFT IT UNLESS YOU HAVE MAJORITY OF THESE CARDS! REWORK IS NEEDED.

Extremely interesting deck with tons of combos made by my friend.

I do not recommend it for new players who are about to craft it. It takes a great time to understand the mechanics and to become acquainted with the deck.

So basically you play with supports, when you have Rimmen Siege Weapons it triggers all pilfer cards (like Quin'rawl Burglar!).
When you have Thieves Den it goes fantastically well with Master of Thieves, all your creatures can attack second time and get +1/+1.
When you put Forward Camp in use your supports costs 1 less, and around turn 6-8 you spawn Eastmarch Crusader in each lane and get 2 card draws.
On top of all this you have Cygnus Standart Bearer that usually fills all your lane with 3/3 creatures.
I've put Varen because it lacks drain creatures and you have 10 cards with draw a card bonus so it suits here well, if you don't like it I'd recommend to put Undying Dragon instead of it.

For ranks 10 to 1 there are a shitload of prophecy bm running around and other heavy agro decks so if you manage to have a problem with them you can put in some more prophecy guards and drain creatures but its your choice. Don't be afraid to modify it.

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19 Comments

Kashim1 2 months ago
Damn I didn't realise how op was rimmen siege weapons until I saw your list. It's gonna get nerfed soon :D
utroc123 2 months ago
I thought my collection is really good already, i wanted to try a combo deck now and this shit still takes me 22k soul gems to afford. FeelsBadMan
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Entusk 2 months ago
It costed me 15k, you know what I did? I bought premium frostpark and dusted all the shiny goods, it was painful but this deck is some serious fun to play. :D
utroc123 2 months ago
Entusk wrote:
It costed me 15k, you know what I did? I bought premium frostpark and dusted all the shiny goods, it was painful but this deck is some serious fun to play. :D
next level shit man, how much does it cost?
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Entusk 2 months ago
The FrostSpark collection was 20 euros i think.
JackAries 2 months ago
How many gems did you get from it?
Censing 2 months ago
Combo'ing Rimmen Siege Weapons with the Pilfer mechanic is genius, very good job with this
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Entusk 2 months ago
It definitely goes well together, I expect to see more pilfer decks with this support and it's very cheap considering what wonders it could do :D another combo I love is thieves den with master of thieves, I haven't seen much decks in the leaderboard using it but in my opinion it's op. It's like getting a swift strike on all your creatures in play.
Great deck!
Censing 2 months ago
Entusk wrote:
another combo I love is thieves den with master of thieves, I haven't seen much decks in the leaderboard using it but in my opinion it's op. It's like getting a swift strike on all your creatures in play.

These cards have been in the game for a while and yet this combo has never been good enough to beat out other decks, sadly. I think the main reason is that Pilfer is a very punishing mechanic- you have to play aggressive by hitting face (which gives you opponent more cards and potential Prophecy's), while these two cards form an expensive combo, and any deck going face is going to want to kill the opponent before they have good answers to your combo (if enemy Control deck) or will simply die while you're wasting magicka setting up an expensive combo (if enemy Aggro deck).

Now that there are more cards in the game to help the combo along this might see some play, but my fear is it's sadly still too slow. The only way I can see it happening is in a Token deck, where you first flood the board with Creatures and then play the combo and quickly close out the game.
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"The only way I can see it happening is in a Token deck, where you first flood the board with Creatures and then play the combo and quickly close out the game."

I've been trying this with a kind of Imperials and Khajiit combo... It seems to be about a turn behind in every match up! So close, but it's just not there.
Elfodd 2 months ago
I've made a similar deck siege+plifer when the expansion came out and found the same that it's just a bit too slow sadly....it's fun when it works...
I'm not able to craft it as i'm free to play player. I have faced this deck 2 times before i figured it out what the heck is it.

It seems so much fun. good job mate.
This deck looked super fun, so I built it... But for some reason, I can't pilot it worth a crap. I've been playing since the game was released, and I have a pretty good idea on how things work, so it's not like I don't get it, but I'm winning like 1/4. What am I doing wrong? It seems pretty aggressive sometimes, but sometimes it can't deal with any threats or big guards. It's like it doesn't play like an aggro, midrange, or control with any consistency. Any advice?
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Entusk 2 months ago
I've seen my friend who made it was successfuly using it in very high ranks, like around #100 and he even managed to get up to #38 last time I saw him. He's a genius player and always comes up with crazy ideas and one of those were this deck :D As I played with it on my own I felt an urge to do some changes, I've added and removed a lot of creatures, I don't know if I broke that "never change a winning deck" rule but I'd say I can relate to your issue. I've ran into situations when my matches turned out OTK, sometimes playing aggressively works, sometimes controlling wins the game but I'm never getting a consistent strategy probably because of the 75 cards or whatever else. And one thing that surprises me is the upvotes on this deck, it's not like it's super good, it's just super interesting and with a little bit of rework it could be really good because the core cards gets the work done it just need some other creatures to get along with. I'd suggest to either try playing aggressively with it or make some changes by adding more removals. I'd be very happy if people who have these cards could try out this deck and suggest some improvements. And also I'd like to ask everyone, do not craft it if requires tons of gems for you, it's just not worth it. I've no idea why this deck made it to #2 spot in that 'past 2 weeks' decks list.
Well, I will say, it's a really fun idea, and when it works, it's actually really funny just watching it pound away at your opponent! But, yeah, it's definitely a novelty deck. Fortunately, I have a ridiculous amount of Soul Gems, and almost 3x of every card, so I didn't have to craft more than a couple cards, but if you had to pay 15000+, that kind of blows for you! Don't worry, just keep playing and you'll make them back!
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Entusk 2 months ago
I was perhaps too much excited for this deck, that's the reason i've invested so much. Perhaps I'll need those cards later. :)
Censing 2 months ago
Entusk wrote:
And one thing that surprises me is the upvotes on this deck, it's not like it's super good, it's just super interesting and with a little bit of rework it could be really good because the core cards gets the work done it just need some other creatures to get along with. I've no idea why this deck made it to #2 spot in that 'past 2 weeks' decks list.

I think it's purely because you figured out a cool Pilfer combo, as well as finding a use for the Support cards that most players wrote off as terrible. I think it's safe to say the deck isn't a strong competitive deck, but the idea behind it is so good and I've since seen some people possibly extrapolate and try out similar ideas in ranked, in particular giving Cygnus Standard Bearer and Forward Camp a go in a Support deck, which I'd never seen on ladder until your deck got popular.

I have seen the actual deck show up a few times, when they play Vivec it's a big giveaway since nobody else is running him lol, I personally feel this deck is two decks in one, the Pilfer plus Rimmen Siege Weapons is a deck, and the Support focus is a deck in and of itself, and although the combined idea is cool I feel both ideas would be much stronger in their own fully fleshed-out decks.

I might try my hand at stealing your idea and trying to build my own deck from it at some point, it serves as good inspiration :)

Edit: Dude, you changed the title to 'please don't craft' xD
Don't sell yourself short man, if people blow all their soul gems on this deck it's not your fault that they invested badly, your deck more than deserved all the likes it was getting for how clever the combo was, and heck, the warning at the top of the description is more than enough warning for any noobs :P
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Entusk 2 months ago
Haha, yeah man I understand that it does have a good combo. I just don't want people to craft it. There were a few times when I crafted a very bad deck just because I was hyped ;)
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